Idiocy Thwarted in Oregon (with a special note to an asshole)
In McMinnville, Oregon, two little boys are off the hook.Thanks to a judge, who threw the case out.
And since that is a state of hippies, I think we can count on them to throw the judge out at the next election.
These two twelve year olds slapped a couple of girls on the butt.
The girls most likely thought the pasty little boys pathetic and laughed.
But the principal was not amused.
The police were called in.
And they were going to prosecute these kids as adults.
Registered sex offenders for life.
What is the matter with the schools?
Are the principals and vice principals so incompetent they can not deal with anything?
And have to call in the swat team if they see two kids holding hands?
Of course, it would be nice if they concentrated on teaching them to read.
But I suppose I am asking way too much.
P.S.--I had a new post I was going to do, and I know the guys would all like it---it is dedicated to flag girls, especially those in short shorts.But I want to leave this one up for a bit. This is because there has been a person commenting. And I think, as sad as it is, that people need to read him, and recognize his type.
99% of men are not like him at all. But there are a few. And they are not hard to figure out. They kill women and children. I have seen the pattern and the talk a million times.
But they are hard to recognize in their ordinary lives cos they seem quite normal and nice.
Read the guy.
And when there is a monster lurking like that you will know it.
~Becky
Labels: bottom slapping, McMinnville, Oregon, schools
posted by Becky C. at
4:10 AM
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Society, in its hatred of sex offenders, often says that they are robbing children of their innocence.
If children are innocent, and don't know about sex, how can these same people find that they had the mental state necessary for culpability for a sexual offense?
Shameful
What happened to a spank on the butt being something playful?
And this whole movement of treating kids as adults in the justice system stinks.
The day children can drive, vote, see R-rated movies, all of which they cannot now because they don't have the maturity to fully understand these things, is the day they can be held liable for slapping a butt. You can't have it both ways.
This story is a good example about the paranoia of education officials having to fear litigeous parents and ambulance chasing lawyers. The teeth of lawyers chasing "any" buck with charges involving the emotional topic of alleged sexual abuse will drive such school administrators to such extreem authoritative prejudical measures. Hippies or not, our litigious society has conditioned this response. "Chicken Little" never had it so good!
Becky - Hope things are going well for you. I read this story a few weeks ago and incorporated it on someone's blog wherein they were going on about incidents such as this trivial caper. I echo the comments already given. Here's a bit from one of e.e.cummings' poem -
"King Christ this world is all aleak, and life preservers there are none".
True,true. Over-sexualize our kids and then punish them for acting in a way that imitates the culture they are encouraged to worship.
Do people like that (the school leadership) really exist? I should like to meet one some day. What fun.
I just thank the Gods that the judge had a modicum of sense.
First time visitor, Becky. Prolly won't be the last.
This entry just proves that, contrary to some reports, common-sense isn't dead everywhere.
Uhhgg-I just read the story in the Columbian-the comments after it sound like something out of Footloose.
"it's all the dancing and the MTV" -like no one in the 1940's or 50's ever slapped a girl's ass.
By the way-
I hope this "woman" who is headed to a federal courtroom kicks some federal ass while she's there.
What is Impacted Fecal Matter? The old adage "You are what you eat" can also be viewed as "You are what you absorb" or "You are what you don’t eliminate." We should have at least two bowel movements each day to evacuate the waste within us. Only one bowel movement a day means fecal matter is impacting and backing up in our systems. When fecal matter impacts within the colon it putrefies. Putrefying fecal matter is potent stuff. A real giveaway is when people break wind. If there is any associated bad smell, it indicates a toxic gut. How on earth did that smell get there in the first place? It is certainly not a normal gut response because a healthy colon with no inflammation or irritation, fed on healthy foods, produces little or no flatulence.
I am leaving that prior comment here cos it is the grossest thing that ever been said on my blog.
Absolutely incredible.
~Becky
Becky I don't understand what the big problem is, I am discussing an important medical condition.
fecal triva, we could talk about the Freudian issues, but lets just talk about what a fucking idiot you are.
Your discussion of impacted shit has nothing to do with my post today.
~Becky
sorry fecal trivia,
my rule is generally not to remove comments. But you have managed to thoroughly disgust me.
Your impacted crap will be, from henceforward, deleted
~Becky
I am a univerity professor in the fecal and human waste sciences department and the Kent State Agriculture Department. I think you should give fecal trivia a chance.
No there is a fundamental problem here. I have a brain. I am also not interested in bowel movements.
I know you find yourself quite amusing. But I do not.
And in the dirty corners of the Internet there are a lot of people who would welcome your medical advise.
~Becky
Becky who are these oddballs who post?
anonymous, it is both the beauty and the disgrace of the internet, that anyone can come out and talk.
And many of them drag themselves out of their filthy asses and show up here.
I have no idea why.
~Becky
I don't see the need for censorship. Your readers, including me, can handle it. We aren't children.
You are into women and into spanking. You repeatedly discuss both, and have posted pictures of both.
Don't you think it might not be the best thing for you to be spanking your teenage daughter in the nude? Your revolution, which sounds like it has the makings of a nudist female penal colony, are fine with me, as this is a free country. But given your sexual interests, it sounds indiscreet and somewhat wrong to involve your daughter in this. I am not saying that spanking is per se bad, just that in your own personal situation it's probably a bad idea.
If I was a dad, was gay, had an interest in bathing men, and also had a teenage son, even if I thought I had good intentions, I wouldn't bathe my son. At the very least, it has the appearance of impropriety.
valproic acid (and I do not think you spelled that right).
I read you comment and it really hurt. So if that was your intention, you win.
Do you read my posts at all? Do you know the kind of things I am going through right now?
Rather than turn on moderating I am leaving your total ignorance and hate. It is seriously good for the world to see what kind of people live among us. Though it is not pleasant.
Nice people forget too easily what vermin there are.
~Becky
I did spell it correctly.
Instead of name-calling, you could have responded to the substance, something you clearly did not do, and I suspect I know why you cannot.
Hate? Vermin? I fail to see any of that in this post, or anything other than good old fashioned reason. Is there something specifically that you are complaining about, other than the fact that the conclusion of my post upsets you?
As to stress, I don't know what stress you are under, as you have been vague. And I fail to see why this post should alarm you. The advice might just help you in the future.
You are an asshole, and I do have a minor in chemistry. so unless your name is derived from an acid I am unfamiliar with I am correct.
You do not read my posts. You do not realize that I try to send out beautiful messages to people, along with my political commentary. You do not realize how much I love my country and god.
You have to make things dirty. Cos you have an annal fixation, which caused your original post here.
I have been hurting bad. And if you have not seen it, it is because you are too dense to read.
I have gotten hundreds of emails from nice people, and comments on he blog about it.
You spend a few minutes here, cos you come to look at lesophobic erotica, and I guess spanking turns you on also. And then are just a mean person--but quite righteous about it all.
Your are also a dangerous person. I worked as a prosecutor. And my job was prosecuting people that abused women, children and animals. So I know the pattern and the talk.
I can read you.
You are the type that goes to work in the morning and everyone thinks you are a marvelous fellow.
But you are not. You are a killer.
~Becky
Killer?
This has gone way too far.
I will note that you still haven't responded to any point I made. i will further note that I read your blog extensively.
I said what you are doing can have the appearance of impropriety. I backed that up with solid reasoning. In response, all you seem to have is hate for me.
I haven't threatened you. In the post I went to lengths to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Stop playing the victim. Just because someone criticizes you doesn't mean the world is coming to an end. And stop trying to shift the focus onto me, playing blog-post psychology.
If you want a dialogue, then respond to what I said. If you want to be a defensive child, keep on calling me names and avoid responding to any of my points.
Valproic acid,
I an going to let you talk as much as you want, and say anything you want.
others can then judge.
that is the beauty of free speech.
~Becky
At least the JUDGE is not as asinine as the SCHOOL was.
I think everyone is getting a little carried away with PC. Gah!
valporic acid, or whatever your real identify is:
You did talk kinda of intelligently, so I will respond accordingly.
And the danger of you is that you probably are intelligent, though often you sound like an idiot around here, and really do come across to people as a very nice person.
You may read me, but what you carry away are your fetishes.These are fetishes for lesbianism (actually lesophobic) and spanking, which I talk about as corporal punishment for kids, and maybe a little bit of fun for adults-- but you have to make it all dirty.
And there is the serious problem with your anal fixation.
I talk much more about America, politics, and whatever, than any of the things you are so self-righteously indignant about.
That is what is so annoying about you.
And actually scary.
You make nice things dirty.
I know you are a bad man. And if I knew where you were living, I would give a call so you would be picked up before you hurt someone.
And do not argue with me about that issue. I spent way too long listening to people that talk like you , it is like second nature to me---I know this brand of evil and hate the second I see it.
I have not any idea what you want to have this intelligent discourse on. I write a very intelligent blog, but you do not get it.
I hope you rot in San Quentin or wherever. I know that is where you belong. I know it in every bone in my body.
~Becky
Well held, Me Child o' Th'CyberPunk
Again, you fail to respond to my points.
According to you, this is my out-of-control reasoning:
1) You enjoy spanking women
2) You enjoy naked women
3) you have a daughter
4) you spank her naked
5) 1-4 could, at the very very least, have an appearance of impropriety.
You can't challenge any of these points, because they are so obvious. No one else here is challenging them, because it is obvious to anyone that all 5 points are true.
As for your read of me:
Not everyone thinks I am a really nice person. Some people like me, others don't. I don't pretend to be the greatest person to ever live.
And as to my homicidal tendencies, I'll be sure to notify my friends and the local police station that a blogger has diagnosed me as a woman-hating, violent killer.
And I do not have anything to do with posts about poop, my posts actually try to make real points.
My impression is that a number of the posters on this thread not previously seen posting on this blog before are simply opposite sides of the same turd.
Something also tells me someone is posting under multiple names and probably cumming in their pants with glee at how clever they think they be.
The making of the "killer" accusation may or not be an
exageration but I think it is not. In the criminal sciences there have been personality pecadillios that have proven out to be leading indicators of those persons predisposed to be killers and while all those with such personality characteristic peculiarities may not actually kill in the act of taking anothers life, they will often kill the joy and spirit of the lives of those around them and those they show their true disposition to in day to day or occasional meeting.
This is all preaching to the choir as nobody knows this better then those who know who and what they are.
Respectfully,
DW
Dane, what part of my post has the trappings of a killer's psyche?
just to clarify something valaporic asshole, cos you are intellgent, and that makes you more dangerousness
I sometimes spank my daughter on her bare butt--to make it sting more.
I do not have the sick fetish that you have for the thing.
and that is why you get on your moral high horse.
I do know your types. You hate thinking women, and have set yourself up as some type of patriarchal judge.
You are dangerous, there is no doubt in my mind. Even if you have not yet killed. The next woman who crosses your moral lines will get it.
~Becky
So Becky, if I were to go to the police and tell them that there is a blogger who clearly has an interest in spanking women, and a sexual attraction to women, and who spanks her daughter nude, they would throw me out as a clear homicidal maniac?
Maybe you could point to the specific one of my 5 points that you disagree with. I know you won't though, because, as I said, they are all taken from your blog, and the conclusion is obvious. Instead of name-calling, you oculd respond to the points. You still, over and over, don't
Buddy, this is the last time I am going to comment. I hope some more people will stop by and say something, but they are probably hopelessly bored by this.
You have some sick fantasies and that is why you read me, and take that small part out. Never bothering to read the 95% that is about politics, America, etc.
You want me to discuss these issues with you, cos you are sitting there beating off.
You are like repressed Muslims, or fundies in Colorado.
But to talk about this stuff we have to be all moral. So it is spiffy with god.
It is kind like how on TV during sweeps week there always has to be a report about prostitution and they show a vid of some attractive prostitutes in two inch skirts.
You are sick.
My blog is healthy as am I.
If you get off on the fact I am a lesbian, or that I sometimes spank my daughter why don't you just read and keep your fucking mouth shut.
~Becky
I don't "get off" on spanking your daughter. Yoy are way too emotional at this point to be reasonable.
For instance, you keep saying your blog is 95% politics. What is the relevance of that? None at all. I never made any claim about what percentage of anything your blog covers. Yet you keep making this point. You aren't making much sense.
You say I am a killer, a pervert, scum, etc. Of course, you still have not responded to any of the 5 points. I know you won't, as does everybody else on this blog.
I comment that it might seem improper to spank your child under the circumstances, and somehow that means that I "get off" from you spanking your child. The logic there, Becky, is non-existent.
Instead of avoiding my questions and calling me names, why don't you sit this one out and wait until your personal issues hav subsided. You are not in the mindset to discuss. Your usual reasoning and wit, which I have come to enjoy in your blog, have been overshadowed by shrill name-calling, paranoia of woman-hating, and utter evasiveness of my points. It isn't your usual style, and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that your personal problems are the reason for this response.
Mr. Put The Acid In,
What it is about your "Five Points" that seem killer-like is the context and how you kill the spirit of sincere communication.
You have taken the episode totally out of context.
The fact a gay parent maybe into spanking outside of child discipline and because the parent has spanked her daughter as a form of punishment in no way supports the connotations you have attempted to ascribe to the act, that being, it’s not about punishment for the gay parent it’s about child abuse at the hands of a lesbian (no you didn’t say that explicitly but I get the point).
This situation has been discussed extensively on a previous thread and the gay parent expressed having a really heavy heart in spanking her daughter and why she did it. She had a lot of balls to open up to the criticisms of others because, I suspect, she wanted to be sure she was doing the right thing for her daughter whom she obviously deeply loves.
For you to convolute that into the possibility that there is something suspicious in the spanking of her daughter is really pretty lame and fucked up and it’s the verbal mind fucking killers do take a part in over and over again.
Just like the mafia hit man on trial in Chicago right now who stated under cross examination that when he was caught on tape describing how “I” and “We” cut so an so up and poured lime on him after killing him…” he testified, the “I” and “We” did not include “me”, a typical mind-fuck.
Anyone who has interacted with “killers” of all stripes (I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt you haven’t taken another persons life) knows the circle jerk logic like yours and Joseph “Joey the Clown” Lombardo on trial in Chicago is a heads-up you’re dealing with a bad and often evil person.
Respectfully,
DW
P.S.
I think the inference that it is not a good thing for a gay parent (who may enjoy erotic spanking) to spank a child of the same sex, naked, for full effect, because it might look like it was more a sexual thing then a discipline thing says more about where your head is at then that of the gay parent in this particular case.
I think only a moron would read my post and think I was a killer. Dane, stop trying to kiss Becky's ass.
I said it has the appearance of impropriety. It does. Go ask a dispassionate person you trust who isn't a reader whether it has the appearance of impropriety.
And how do you know exactly what Becky's true feelings about this are. You don't even know her.
You look like an idiot sitting here ranting about the nature of serial killers.
Unlike Becky, I don't spank any underage person. I don't hit anyone naked where there is no consent. And I didn't even say it was improper per se, I said it can have an appearance. Are you telling me that if we asked 100 people at random if they thought it looked improper, the majority of them would say it had absolutely no appearance of impropriety, and, further, the person asking the question sounded remarkably like a killer. You see how absurd your claim is?
"The fact a gay parent maybe into spanking outside of child discipline and because the parent has spanked her daughter as a form of punishment in no way supports the connotations you have attempted to ascribe to the act, that being, it’s not about punishment for the gay parent it’s about child abuse at the hands of a lesbian (no you didn’t say that explicitly but I get the point)."
It has nothing to do with her being gay. If a straight parent had a spanking fetish, and was spanking an older child of the opposite sex in the nude, there would be the same appearance of impropriety. I mentioned gay in this point because if she were straight and spanking her daughter, my criticism wouldn't apply. Had you thought that out at all, you would have realized this has nothing to do with lesbians or lesbian hating.
Nor did I say anything about it being child abuse. I said it could appear as such. Law enforcement officials actively monitor the internet for these sorts of things. I was trying to give Becky the message that for her own sake, it might not be a good idea to be posting this.
And Becky reasons that because I try to have her remove material regarding spanking her child, I get off on it. You seem to second that notion. That makes perfect sense. I get off on it, which is exactly why I wanted it to disappear.
If you have followed Becky since the early days, you would know that she has responded/asked hundreds of posts about child spanking. While she says most of her blog now is devoted to other issues, and I never said it wasn't, there is a strong history of an interest in spanking that spans age groups. But, as you say, it is the circle jerk logic of a serial killer that might see appearances of impropriety, not anyone else. Interesting.
Like I said, go out and survey people, mention my 5 points, and see if they agree with the appearance of imrpopriety, or think that I might be a killer.
And to respond to your P.S.
You will see from reading my post that gayness is ancillary.
And its funny that you frame this as an issue of gay parent spanking same sex child, with a parenthetical about that person possibly enjoying spanking. Lokes like you are trying to hide the facts. There is no question that Becky definitely enjoys spanking, so cut the parentheticals. That is the situation I am addressing, not some random parent.
Becky and Dane,
I'm no enemy to either of you or this blog, as you know from my previous posts, but I think both of you are going over the top with this killer stuff. I am not seeing it at all.
And I am not exactly sure what about this acid guy's post is prompting such a response.
I do agree this feces stuff is nuts though.
As I see it, good attention or bad attention is still 'attention' and that's clearly what ValAcid wants. You see the same behaviour in children all the time.
Trolls are best ignored, they feed off controversy.
Becky to take this comment and go to serial killers is too much. It sounds extraordinarily defensive of you.
I got to join our resident economic theorist here. I think you are overreacting.
Are we really arguing that it can't have any appearance of something improper? I know that's not your intention at all Becky, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't appear that way.
Ok Mr. Homeland Security,
First off, I'm not sticking my nose up this bloggers ass.
She's basically got her heel on your neck all by herself.
I'm posting to tell you I think you're a horse's ass.
Secondly, let's forget lesbianism/gayness all together cause as you say, "You will see from reading my post that gayness is ancillary."
But I have to ask, why do you only make points 1 & 2, and put points 1 & 2 foremost, yet you neglected to include the context of the rest of this discussion on the other thread where the mother found her child had played in the wash?
Any clear minded individual who read the whole, in context, could not come away from this mothers posts and think that she, might have a spanking fetish that she is projecting on her daughter.
So, your point is, it is not a very good idea to advertise on the net that you may have a spanking fetish and and that you spank your daughter naked?
Says who?
So, says you and a hundred others who rode in on demented horses?
Ok, duly noted.
But I must say, I think you are way off on that observation as the authorites have bigger fish to fry like the Judge behind the bench busted for using a penis pump while court was in session.
Ocassionally, authorites raid the wrong crack house, but I think if the Department of Children Services read the whole topic here the blogger doesn't have to worry about them more then she does you.
I'm not going to play with you on this.
The last I'll say about it is, you are entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong and if the blogger of this blog deems your wild accustations should stand, undeleted, who am I to say anything more on it.
Lastly, typically you take only to the literal of my inferences to the killer mentality, not the context in the words as a whole.
res ipsa loquitor (that "thing" being you).
Respectfully,
DW
what does any of this have to do with serial killers. u people on crack or something?
Dane,
This isn't the only instance where Becky said she spanks. The context was not just this specific incident. It is the hundred posts about spanking her kids that appear on Yahoo answers.
Yes, me and a hundred others would see an appearance of impropriety. So, if the vast majority of people think there is such an appearance, how am I so completely off base?
I see you have retracted the gay issue as you do see it is ancillary. You should read my posts more carefully next time. I also see you are not echoing Becky's ridiculous claim that I get off on spanking kids.
Oh, and Becky doesn't have to spank bare or naked. I didn't say that she can't discipline for good cause. I didn't even say Becky was wrong. I specifically said that that it was only appearance I was talking about. I don't know Becky, and I am not making a judgment about her motives (unlike you two, who have the temerity to judge mine, as a pervert, or that of a person who thinks like a killer, or, as Becky says, an actual killer).
The frequency that law enforcement might or might not be concerned with such a situation is also irrelevant. I didn't say they necessarily are or aren't. Only that they could.
"So, your point is, it is not a very good idea to advertise on the net that you may have a spanking fetish and and that you spank your daughter naked?"
Becky does have a spanking fetish, it is not a "may" issue. Again, consult previous blog posts and the many posts on Yahoo answers. So I will rephrase the paragraph:
"So, your point is, it is not a very good idea to advertise on the net that you have a spanking fetish, you like women, and that you spank your daughter naked?"
Yeah, that is my point exactly. That is the point that you and Becky are claiming is more outrageous than holocaust denial.
valproric acid, I am gonna comment here again, cos this is the only post you are going to be allowed to comment on.
What is the big deal on spanking? I can understand the position of many, as many believe, that it is not a good parenting technique. I disagree but that is ok. But you are obsessed with it, even more than lesbianism.
This is beause your read a bunch of sexuality into. It is the same reason you think impacted shit is a big deal. It really is very Freudian. And you can not help it, you are just not wired right.
And though the place for you is prison, in the interim, a counselor would be very helpful.
~Becky
Becky,
I am obsessed with spanking? HOe many posts on Yahoo answers did you write about it?
And what does any interest I have in spanking, which isn't clear, have anything to do with my post. Again, this is just childish ad hominem attacks.
I am not reading sexuality into spanking. You are the one who has. Your posts over the long haul indicate you do have a sexual interest in spanking. But you project that onto me. And I have absolutely no obsession with lesbianism. I myself am gay. Sorry to disappoint you, I am only interested in other men.
I am not, and never had, made spanking a huge deal. I commented that it has the appearance of impropriety, something oyu haven't denied because, fo course, you can't Even Dane conceded most people would agree with me.
I never said that your spannking your daughter was at all sexual. I took pains not to say that, because I couldn't justify making such a statement. My opinion in my original post was very limited.
Your reading on me is humorously off the mark.
I belong in prison because I see impropriety in the same place most people would.
I'm sorry but why aren't more people agreeing with this guy? He makes a valid argument and Becky is being the melodramatic attention seeker she has been since the first moment I found this place.
why would you spank your child naked? We're not taking it out of context Becky, you're just not thinking.
js,
what you do not understand, and I would not expect you to, is I spent years prosecuting people who killed women, sexual offenders, child abusers, abusers of animals.
After just a little while you read the clues very fast and you know and can identify these people. No matter how smart they are, or how well they talk.
this valoporic acid, impacted shit pr whatever he is is a very sick puppy. And dangerous--especially to women.
I really don't care about what he says on my little blog. But I do think it important that everyone be able to recognize these people.
This is one of my major issues. And he showed up here.
The things he said about me were full of hate, he hates women, he hates women that can think, he is lesophobiuc and actually has a whole litany of psychological problems he has openly shown( anal problems, the fixation with spanking--they are numerous)
I left his crap for people to learn from. That is all.
~Becky
Again, you respond to none of my points.
And I have no idea what you are talking about regarding impacted shit and an anal fixation. I have not posted on either of those subjects.
Christina, thank you for the glimmer of reason hidden among all the melodrama of killers and rapists.
Acid dude,
You owe me an apology.
"Even Dane conceded most people would agree with me."
That is a complete untruth. I never said that.
It's all there in black and white.
Respectfully,
DW
"So, says you and a hundred others who rode in on demented horses?"
Implying that the fact that anyone surveyed would agree with me is meaningless.
How about apologizing for the killer innuendo, calling the logic circular jerk logic, and otherwise ignoring common sense.
To repeat my argument, in a slight variation of your characterization of it,
"So, your point is, it is not a very good idea to advertise on the net that you have a spanking fetish, you like women, and that you spank your daughter naked?"
Yes. That is the "convoluted" logic you have attacked me for, called me names for, etc.
When you start being rational and using common sense, we can talk about apologies.
I am just gong to take a few minutes and tell what I know about domestic violence. I really need to talk about this more in a main post or a series, of them. It is a serious issue, and a big issue with me.
Valapoirc acid is a mess psychologically. He has proven that here. He may be under control at this time and I know he is intelligent.
But he is a powder keg and you never know what will happen with men like him.
Now, I have said many times, that by far most men are not like this. Valaporic Acid will say I am a man hating dyke. I can only respond that less than 99% of men have this problem.
You never know when they will go off. Things might be fine for him at home at the moment. His wife I doubt speaks her mind up much. But if someone looses their job, etc, and things get out of kilter people like him kill.
I once prosecuted this guy for beating his wife. She insisted on exercising her marital privilege and came and talked to me. I had to dismiss the charges.
She told me how she was leaving her husband. And she had it planned out to do it, when he was at work.
I guess he found out. The three kids got their throats slit, and she a gun shot in the back of the head, and the house was burnt down.
The only thing that pisses me off is the guy drove across town and shot himself and deprived me of the opportunity to fully castrate him.
There are bad people. there are bad men.
Not most men at all, I love men, look at my post today for you:)
I just know that valaporic acid is someone who is bad, and when the moment arrives, and the components are right he will explode.
He has proven it here with his statements and self admitted psychological problems.
~Becky
becky you have to stop you aren't looking very good here. they guy wasn't insulting you, hes making a valid point. and you are going on and on about animal abusers and killers.
i suspect like a lot of people in the last few weeks that this isn't the same becky, or you are really going bonkers.
I am a regular contributor to this blog, and I hate to say it, but valproic isright on this point.
I am afraid to say this on my real name because Becky you are way too emotional, and I think you will hold it against me.
I think you have been very unfair to this person. And saying he is a wife abuser (he doesn't even have a wife, he said he was gay) is really not like you.
Becky, you need to take a break from blogging. I think you are under too much stress now.
There is a big difference in my interpretations and comments toward you, stated outright as opposed to you ascribing words that I never said.
"So, says you and a hundred others who rode in on demented horses?" which you rightfully stated, "[Implies] that the fact that anyone surveyed would agree with me is meaningless." doesn't mean you can outright make untruths to another about what I actually said.
How do you get from my thinking the homies that agree with you are meaningless or are entitled to there opinion entitles you, not in jest, to make the bald faced, outright lie that I agreed many would agree with you? That's the mind fuck you dudes do.
It could just as easily be the case we could have a pissing contest and come out with just as many who agree with each of us. But I won't lie about what you actually said.
You can insult and disparage me all you want. I will never put words in your mouth and present them to another as said by you. That's essentially the meaning of res ipsa loquitor. Your words speak for themselves.
I see you tend to make up the rules as you go along.
You present yourself as looking out for the blogger, that her posts may be troublesome, yet that is not the tone I found in your posts and it was only down the line you played the hero, so to speak, starting a fire and then calling 911 afterwards and running to be the first to be interviewed on T.V.
Look, the fact the blogger likes or doesn't like spanking in the erotic sense and also happens to spank her daughter naked so it stings for bad or dangerous behavior has nothing to do with each other, save for those who have their minds in the wrong place.
If you're anti-spanking you might get duped into thinking the two circumstances are serious.
Should parents spank or not that's been beaten to death.
I know the personality characteristics the blogger is talking about, the "signals" so I don't think she's that far off the mark, granted a cursory estimation. She's not wearing a tin-foil hat in her point by any means in my mind. Making false statements about what another person said is a great signal. It's justified because I hurt your feelings in some of the things I said? You're the Good Samaritan?
Riight, hardy, har har.
Respectfully,
DW
And another thing to the Anonymous' this is kind of serious.
If you like Becky. This, as she has said, is hurtful to her.
Why don't you stand by your feelings with a name?
I respect Christina and Shamrock and others that identify themselves even if I don't agree with them.
Respectfully,
DW
"Look, the fact the blogger likes or doesn't like spanking in the erotic sense and also happens to spank her daughter naked so it stings for bad or dangerous behavior has nothing to do with each other, save for those who have their minds in the wrong place."
So, if you worked for a child welfare agency as a supervisor, and you were told a woman has blogged and posted on yahoo dozens of posts about spanking, from kids to adults, is attracted to the same sex her child is, her child it not a toddler but an older child, and that the woman spanks her child in the nude, you would fire any of those under your command who even suggested looking into the matter, because only those with their minds in the "wrong place" would ever even see any connection whatsoever between the two. Further, any sensible judge, or any reasonable person anywhere, would never think that there was even a possibility of impropriety. The only people who would ever think that are dirty minds and those with a penchant for murder.
You are clearly being irrational. Go ask someone whose judgment you value, see what they say.
As for misquoting you, I apologize. It's not as though I fed words into your mouth, I restated your implication. I apologize if that has offended you.
If I had a rectal temperature taking fetish with adults, I would probably have the good sense not too take my teenage kid's rectal temperature in the nude, even if he showed signs of a fever. I am not a sick person but even I can tell people might take it the wrong way.
Dane, i think you and becky are loopy.
ugh, becky.. The moment someone makes ANY argument or strikes up ANY form of debate on this blog he or she is lesophobic. GET OVER YOUR SEXUALITY.You seem to be the most uncomfortable with it. You're the one always bringing up that someone is going to call you a man hating dyke. I've only been here for about a week. Not once have I seen it anywhere, but you have said it countless times.
There is NO correlation between a man not agreeing with you and a man being a murderer. Stop over analyzing. It's an online debate. not becky's false judgment corner.
I must be a murderer too. And to think, it's hard for me to even eat meat.
Cristina,
you are another person who chosses not to identify themselves at all. Hopefully you are just an incarnation of this guy.
but did you read this man? doi you see the words? Do they mean one thing to you?
do you think there might be more than just a an "argument" involved here
the "lesophobia" was really kind of small part with the fellow.
You apparently are an enabler of men like him, and that is very very common.
but sad
~Becky
or maybe I should just give up, admit I am a pervert, and a child beater, and do as valoporic acid suggests--- take an enema and get the impacted shit out of my butt, and just pray I get better.
god bless that man
~Becky
I really would accept an apology but not your non-apology, apology:
"As for misquoting you, I apologize...I restated your implication [You did not say you're making an inference or paraphrasing what I said]. I apologize if that has offended you."
That's a non-apology, apology.
IF you offended me, then you apologize?
Yeah, people putting words in my mouth offends me.
Yeah, I'm loopy.
Some people enjoy spanking for pleasure and have been known to spank their children naked for bad behavior. Some link one with the other and go on to say it's "questionable".
Yeah, like a man or woman who likes anal sex. For them to take their infants temperature with an anal thermometer, oh the questionable nature of it all!!
While, in this case, there is no indication whatsoever that the naked spanking of the child is intended for anything other then to alter bad behavior, some of you harp, but it could be more then that!!
Where's the there there?
Respectfully,
DW
Becky,
Why are you being so hostile and unreasonable. I didn't say you were a child beater. I never said anything of the sort. Stop trying to drum up controversy where there is none. I also never said anything about impacted shit, I really don't understand why you think I did, but when dealing with me it would be better to stick to my posts, not someone else.
As for Dane:
"Yeah, like a man or woman who likes anal sex. For them to take their infants temperature with an anal thermometer, oh the questionable nature of it all!!"
Well, I didn't post that, so you can take it up with whoever did. Nor did I call you loopy. But I will say that you are using some non-analogy to refute whoever posted this. Liking anal sex and using rectal thermometers are not the same thing. Liking spanking and spanking are. Liking temperature taking and temperature taking are. How do you criticize an analogy by coming of with a situation that is completely different?
"While, in this case, there is no indication whatsoever that the naked spanking of the child is intended for anything other then to alter bad behavior"
No indication? How about taking clothing off before spanking. You can spank with disrobing somebody. Thats no indication? If you read Becky's Yahoo posts, and her profile, you can see that she went on a self-described pro-spanking crusade. Dozens, mabye almost a hundred, posts about the importance of spanking, plus the admission that she enjoys spanking as a sexual activity, plus the fact that she disrobes her daughter to spank her. And in all of that there is no indication whatsoeever that anything might be askew.
If you are serious, you might just be the blindest person in the world. And I am not saying that Becky's disciplining her child is sexually motivated at all, for the hundreth time, I am saying it carries the appearance of impropriety to a reasonable person.
And I do apologize for putting words into your mouth. Perhaps you can chastise Becky as well for implying that I called her a child abuser.
you are so sick,and so obsessed with spanking. And want to talk about it all the time, while you condmen it.
Like how much time is really spent here on this issue?
Since like I have told you I have serious problems going on. My daugher is ins exlile in Eurpoe. I had to resign my job.
You have become a maggot in my life.
And I just don't need it at this point.
so if your intent was to shut me down you may succeeded
You have made it unfun.
fuck you
~Becky
Becky,
I did not mean to hurt you so much, and I am sorry if I have done so.
You ask "how mch time is spent here really on that issue?" I have repeatedly stated that I was talking about your blog as a whole, over time (not just in the past few weeks) and the plethora of posts on Yahoo answers. You know there are tons of posts on Yahoo answers, by you, about spanking. Probably the majority of your poses. So please stop telling me that its not a focus. And, like I said, I never claimed it was a main focus. I am allowed to respond to a particular part of your blog, why should I be limited to posting only on what the majority of your blog posts are about? If there is a subject you don't want to invite comment on, don't ever write about it.
I am still unclear why my saying that your posts, collectively, carry the appearance of impropriety demonstrate an obsession with spanking. If I was obsessed, wouldn't it stand to reason that I would do my best not to discourage your posting about it?
Gievn all that is happening in your life, which I can only speculate about, don't you think it is better to take my advice and not leave fodder on the blog for those who might get the wrong idea?
I never intended to shut down your blog. It is you, with these overreaching and ridiculous responses, that is turning people away. I made a simple comment, and you told me I was a woman hater, lesophobic, animal torturing, wife-beating serial killer, and compared me with murderous dictators. All of this, of course, is nonsense. It was a very defensive, childish response. I am gay, I don't have a wife, I have no problem with women at all, and I have healthy pets. You couldn't have read me any more incorrectly.
Had you simply said you disagreed, or accepted my opinion, that would have been it. You are creating the drama, not me.
I am very sorry about everything going on in your life. Unlike you, I never resorted to charater assasination. I consistently maintained that I am not speaking to your actual intentions, only a possibel appearance. You didn't exercise similar discretion, and just blew the roof on me.
I do hope you continue blogging, and I do enjoy your posts. If you can't handle a discussion at this point, you need not engage me in any discussion. But when you look over this conversation when your personal problems are resolved, and consider the comments of other readers, I hope you will come to realize that your reaction has been unjustified.
Val
there are some phrases here that are strangely familiar to one of my very good online friends, I'll just call him"J" who is always nice to me, but I know has some personal issues with spanking.
Just in case this is you in an alter ego, please get help. I mean it sincerely. And if you need the money, and I do not think you would, but if you do, email me.
~Becky
becky --
i leave your blog for just 24 hours, and this is the kind of shit-storm that erupts while i'm gone. i always miss the excitement!
mr. flatulent gastrointestinologist (did i just make up a word?), you seem like a smart dude. you write pretty well. but you seem to have a personal vendetta against becky. what gives? you obviously have been following her blogs for a long time now. she perhaps even knows you and would recognize you as a friend. why not just be a real friend to her and step out of the shadows under your real name?
the first thing i'm struck by, on a superficial level after looking through the 66 comments above mine, is how schizo you seem. you rail, deride, and insult becky like crazy in the majority of your comments -- then you have the nerve to finally apologize to her for hurting her the way you've done.
nice job, mr. charmer. that doesn't redeem you against becky's claim that you might have a propensity to be abusive towards women. with abusers, there's always that fake attempt to apologize at the conclusion of a vicious assault.
becky was great and sweet for giving you a platform by which to air your disagreements/grievances against her on her blog. but you abused the privilege. and seriously, if you can't come over to someone's house and be respectful there, then you just shouldn't come over at all.
still, you've done what you done, and i must ask: did you get the results you wanted? is your personal grudge worth that much to hurt someone beyond repair?
if you've been an avid follower of becky's writing since the beginning of time, as you state, and that's probably longer than the rest of us, then you should know better to make the kind of accusations you've made here.
you should know that becky is an erudite and intelligent person who thinks matters through in her unique but thorough way.
you should know that she's accomplished much more than most anyone on a professional and academic basis.
and you should know above all else that she has an absolutely great family and great relationships with them all, including her daughter. i personally know this to be true. her daughter does get spanked if she misbehaves and/or breaks the rules, but her daughter is a fantastically smart girl, so spanking is actually done rarely. for you to insinuate otherwise is, like dane has said time and time again today, only a reflection on you and your own propensity to think perversely.
you kind of remind me of the victorians of turn-of-the-century britain. they had so many rules in place to govern behavior, appearance, civility, and decorum. it was, as we all know, an attempt to control sexuality, namely the sexuality of women. any woman who deviated from the social rules was ostracized, deemed a whore, and publicly castigated time and time again. at the same time, despite their stern approach in the attempt to control sexuality, we know now that these victorians were secretly perverted, much more than those that they attempted to hurl stones at. they repressed their sexual urges so much that, behind closed doors, these urges would get expressed in the most "perverse" way. if you're really this interested in perversity, i recommend for reading dr. richard krafft von ebing's psychopathia sexualis. he was the forerunner to the brilliant little man, dr. siggy freud.
(btw, becky was making a freudian allusion when she referred to your anal fixation. you can't deny that you seem to be overly . . . interested in the properties and propensities of the, er, rectum.)
in any case, you should be ashamed of yourself. i'm assuming you pose as becky's friend under your real id, but then you turn around and stab her in the back with your wild accusations. seriously, you should know her a bit better than how you let on. and dane has made the same pointed argument time and time again about the difference between spanking children as a disciplinary matter and spanking as a fun thing for two consenting adults to do behind closed doors. you seem to have conveniently forgot, as dane reminded you, that becky was heart-sore when she had to spank her daughter for wandering into a dangerous place, the wash, just when a storm was busting out in the desert where she lives. i'm not a parent, but i can only imagine the horror she felt that her child was in danger, the ensuing relief that her daughter was okay, and then the reprimands because she knew her daughter had known better but still chose to disobey her order not to go into the wash at all. becky did spank her, and her daughter's pants were pulled down to expose the buttocks, and then her daughter got the spanking. this was done so that her daughter would get the message that 1.) she's not to disobey her mother; and 2.) that she had done wrong by wandering into the wash.
that is WHOLLY different from two consenting adults getting into a little whip action behind closed doors. for one thing, there are, well, two adults. and for another, they are consenting.
so seriously, get your mind out of the gutter, you perv. i'm not very bright as to address the notion of whether you could be a killer, but i trust the assessments of dane and becky based on their own knowledge and expertise. and maybe do us and yourself a favor and stop frequenting altogether. if you really have a problem with becky, stop posing as her friend and just move on. you come across as such a voyeur. you say you have a problem with everything she's written on the issue of spanking, and yet you continue to come back for more and read her up on an obsessive basis, and you make dastardly, rude, and hurtful comments about her. seriously, make a choice and stick to it. stick to your principles. just don't be sneaky, underhanded, and two-faced. you may be a smart and well-written guy -- but these other characteristics don't make you very charming and only add to the evidence that you might not be a very nice guy at all.
as for everyone else, shame on you. you're supposed to be becky's friends. you've been reading her as long as i have, if not longer, and you should know who and how she is. i used to read aesop's fables when i was a kid. one of the most important morals that i took away from that was this: in times of danger, one knows who one's friends are.
punks.
abba,
Another post that makes no sense.
I don't know why you, or Becky, keeps on talking about anal fixation or shit. If you read my posts, not somebody elses, you will see I never mention those things.
The fact that you try to explain to me why Becky spanked the way she did means you have not comprehended what I said. I didn't say Becky wasn't justified. I said that given everything, all of her interests, it has the appearance of impropriety. For this Becky called me a lesbian obsessed, wife-beating, sex offending, animal torturing woman hater who will probably beat his wife.
Get a clue before you weigh in. I never said she abused her children. You really need to read more closely.
Let me make sure that I understand this... Becky writes blogs which are designed to inform, inspire, elicit responses about interesting social topics, and sometimes just make people shake their head and wonder about our crazy world. And because some people take issue with her opinions they label her with hateful names, fill up her page with nonsensical gibberish, and generally drag what might have been a worthwhile discussion about a serious social issue into some sort of Becky hate-fest.
I've known Becky much longer than most of you, and while I don't always agree with her opinion, I never feel the need to lash out at her personally. She's a wonderful person with a brilliant and gentle mind, and the guts to stand up and point out that there are some big issues in the world around us.
If you don't like what she has written then stop reading and commenting on her blog -- that certainly seems quite simple.
But if you choose to throw rocks and ridicule other people, then perhaps you'll do the decent thing and march your happy ass down to the principal's office and ask for a spanking to knock some sense into you.
~Britt
Britt why don't you read Becky's posts and Valproic's posts and see who is actually spewing hate.
Has it ever occured to anyone that fecal trivia, professor barfstein, valproic acid, and so many other aliases could possibly be one in the same person? Oh horrors, is this concept too much for your little brains to handle?
Deal with it folks, it happens all the time!
Bottom line, this is Becky's blog and she can post about whatever she likes, and remove other persons' comments as she pleases. The internet is not a democracy -- it's just a social community made up of a wide variety of people -- some of whom have a very sick and twisted view of what is fun to talk about.
If you don't like Becky's blog or the way she chooses to edit comments, then pick up your marbles and go find a new playground.
'Nuf said!
~Britt
Becky, the acid guy is 100% right. Your labeling of him as a "woman hater" was some of the absolute worst logic I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.
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